The merciful Kiwi hooker’s reneging on her initial story after consulting her whereabouts on the date proves nothing about where Craig was or who he was with that night. But it does prove something much more significant: that somebody tried to frame him with it. Somebody on Channel 9.
Though the girl said she was not a reliable witness, and it may not have been Craig whom she was with, the Channel ran the story anyway; since they had a reason — a commercial reason, a ratings reason — to do so. And … so … if one person provenly tried to frame him, and that is not in doubt, with false evidence or tweaked evidence or what might be called post-fabricated evidence … why not, then, another?
The Scottish verdict ‘Not Proven’ is now likely as regards his time with hookers; or it is until some former crony of his union stalkers Lawler and Jackson grasses on them, if that occurs. And the Electoral Commission has said he spent all but eighteen thousand of the union money ‘appropriately’, and the eighteen thousand may be okay too.
So at the worst he can pay the eighteen thousand back, or some of his friends including me will. And that will be that. The ALP may give him his preselection back, or not, but he’d win as an Independent anyway if he chose to run.
And that will be that.
Except that he has in the meantime, in only sixteen and a half days, destroyed, probably, the Liberal Party. Once and for all.
And so it goes.
Name:
Bananamoron, the point was never about screwing the fucking hooker, the point was about the misuse of a credit card.
Doesn’t mean he did anything wrong you fucked up moron.
Who the hell do you think should approve the credit card expenditure beside the secretary of the union.
He didn’t steal anything or commit any crime and why do you pretend to care about the HSU members.
Marilyn, please shut up.
Let the victory unfold.
Let be.
‘Bananamoron’ is not an argument.
The war is over.
Let be.
The battle perhaps. But the question remains … did someone pay her to change her tune? She is a wonton lady accustomed to performing acts for the highest bidder. Did you offer her a sum of money Bob in order to ensure your prediction was correct?
No.
You spell it ‘wanton’.
Wonton is a soup.
Apologies Bob – had lunch on the mind. Is the ‘No’ with reference to paying the said lady of the night?
Yes.
Duelling conspiracy theories, where everybody is right and nobody is wrong.
Is it a dead/alive DeVere or Shakespeare sharing the box with the cat, let’s take a peek.
Tony Abbott is like a hairball the Libs can no longer cough up or swallow, they’ll dry reach all the way to the Election.
Mr. Ellis, good on you for offering to pay back that $18K if necessary.
Which says that it may not be necessary for me to say goodbye to Jerusalem, just yet.
All this prattle about a few thousand dollars and non-existent hookers and finally the explosive news that the AFP were ordered to shut down the evil AWB crime story.
$290 million to Saddam Hussein or a few hundred bucks to a hooker.
I know what is more important.
but the AFP manage to have 100 cops hunting refugees in Asia and letting refugees drown, jailing Indonesian children in breach of the law and so on.
They couldn’t organise a root in a fucking brothel.
Jesus, Marilyn, desist, desist.
You are a great researcher, and the worst propagandist I know.
Do one thing at a time, okay?
And write better prose.
I am a woman, I can do more than one thing at once.
At least that is something the ALP can organise Mazza…
The bastards survived the Godwin Grech shit, they’ll survive this too, but Abbott’s days are numbered. He may last until September; even longer if the knife-sharpeners don’t have the cojones.
Dead Man Walking.
18K? Very generous of you Bob. What about the other $500K he has been found to have misappropriated? You may need to liquidate your assets on the northern beaches (at least it would mean the newly privatised buses would not be an issue).
It was never five hundred thousand, I think it was around three hundred and eighty thousand.
Of this the Australian Electoral Commission said all but eighteen thousand had been spent within the guidelines.
The five hundred thousand was, and is, a big lie.
Do not propagate it.
Accept defeat.
And extinction.
Bob you can hide behind the ‘AEC’ but it does not make it right does it? The hard working members of the HSU don’t pay their dues to finance the election campaigns of individuals. I suspect they believe their funds will be used to improve their conditions and protect them. Or maybe I’m wrong.
“..The hard working members of the HSU don’t pay their dues to finance the election campaigns of individuals. …”
Funny how I don’t hear you complaining about how these same hard-working members should be upset about financing a Volvo for Kathy Jackson. Was it in the best interests of HSU members that the ALP gained government, thus throwing out both WorkChoices and little johnny howard? I believe so.
Convince me how Kathy Jackson’s Volvo was expenditure which even remotely contributed to advancing the interests of any HSU member. (Other than KJackson’s, of course).
No, union members like to see their advocates in parliament, Curtin, Chifley, Hawke and Crean come to mind, and the two dollars a year it cost them ro see Craig elected did not, I think, much discommode or enrage them. Please name one it enraged. Just one.
And stop telling lies.
Honestly Bob. So what your saying is that ‘Union Fees’ are really just code for ‘Campaign Donations’? Wink Wink. What a pathetic indictment of the Union movement if that’s the case.
Name a single lie I’ve stated – you cannot comment for all members of the HSU, and it is fair to assume at least one (perhaps Kathy Jackson…) didn’t approve of their dues going to get Thomo into Parliament.
Yes, it was ‘misappropriated’ as you say, because the union never authorised it, not that we haven’t seen millions spent on elections against the will of union members. However, unlike general donations to a campaign, this was just the usual case of the NSW HSU cabal (Thomson included) typically using the unions money as if it was their own (FWA interviews show that). However common it is to see unionist’s money being used for the rump/husk ALP, it is mind boggling that anyone could think that people acting honestly could EVER recommend using so much money for such a campaign in a marginal seat for one (inside) man. It is laughable to even think of it, even while getting upset at the depths to which such creeps could descend.
To see the ignorant defending it is worse, but unexpected in today’s progressive world of ‘anything goes’ for the political class. Never worked in an HSU occupation I suppose. No empathy there.
I’m working in an HSU occupation right now. I don’t have to be part of a union because it’s all locked in by law. The job only exists after changes made by Labor meant you could no longer work 24 hours straight. The biggest threat to my occupational security is a Liberal government.
Can you enlighten me on this good news by explaining how Labor made these welcome changes? And your occupational security?
Through parliament, I suppose, what exactly are you contesting me on? I’m sure all the changes to industrial law in the health care sector under Labor are written down somewhere, I personally am not on top of it. The ruling that meant that shift hours were limited while working for the same employer must have come into play about a year and a half ago or so. The Liberals aren’t as ideologically committed to award conditions, though, surely that isn’t in dispute.
“How curious you’re a Liberal voter”
Bob, you and many others just don’t get it. People like me hate the political ruling classes and abhor all current political parties. My whole extended family and I don’t have a party now, no matter how we vote – or not vote.
The current abomination which is the ALP cannot reform itself and has to die. Some of us have memories of times when the hoi polloi, the ‘little people’ as Brendan O’Neill so aptly describes them, were not treated with contempt, fear and loathing by the political class but that was decades ago now. Until someone – anyone – comes up with something apart from token handouts to cater for their interests, until working people, including all those hated by “progressives” – aspirational, McMansion-owners, tradesmen (David Williamson and Don Watson come on down), those who just won’t vote the way their ‘ betters’ say they should – have a party grouping to live their experience, the faux ‘labour’ party will be attacked and exposed. As will all those who deceitfully seek to claim a phony inheritance from the heroes of our political past while they spit on their legacy.
That is why the HSU issue perfectly encapsulates everything in its rottenness and whilever stooges try and protect looters for political reasons, they simply lay bare exactly what I am talking about: the unionists themselves mean nothing. Politics is all. If that means protecting grasping traitors to the members’ interests that is okay so long as the political class is looked after. ‘Vote’?
I respect what you have to say and will answer you in a day or so.
Thank you for your intelligence and sincerity. You are a welcome contrast with some other correspondents now howling in purdah for their intemperance, bad manners, craziness and big lies.
“I am certain I have seen your voice in support of the Coalition.
Is that the case?”
Yes. Many times. When you only have two choices, when the only opposition on moves, policies and frauds antithetical to my views by the ALP is the coalition I support those views. But that is not a party for me. I know where we differ on philosophy and that cannot be reconciled. Cop the religious nuts who pre-select stooges from university? That’s as bad as the ALP which also houses the Thomsons and Williamsons of this world or waste union funds by giving them sinecures at union expense until they can get safe seats in parliament?
When (well, why would you bother, but ‘if’) you looked at what I have said before, I am under no illusion about the coalition. I have been around too long for that and that there was never a “no disadvantage test” to Workchoices was second nature to the Libs. The ‘Nationals’ are still the old Country Party to me (same old agrarian socialists – I have a million stories about them. Handouts just because of who they are.
In the words of Braine’s Joe Lampton “I am working class…and proud of it”. Can’t help that, but I am onto all those who try to claim the high ground on principle.I could say a lot more but this blog isn’t the place for it.
In summary, my support for coalition just happens to coincide on policy sometimes. This rotten ALP leaves me with not too many chances to back them at all. The moment a Turnbull policy falling for the climate rort comes in – watch me then.
I regret using this blog for these posts, it isn’t that sort of a blog. I shouldn’t have done it but I was asked a question and let rip I’m afraid. I will answer in brief for that reason and let it go forever (unless to answer the odd thing every now and then if the Big Bwana lets me).
It is a rotten ALP, no matter what policies they might come up with that are, coincidentally, acceptable either to me or the rest of the country. Right now, with the policies they have on climate (tax and green scams), illegal immigrants (real refugees need our assistance but are denied this due to the frauds squeezing them out), foolishly pushing s#@t uphill trying to subsidise pineapple growing at the South Pole (ie subsidies to manufacturers, mostly multi-nationals – at least John Button made them restructure), the disgraceful attack on free speech, the crude and unconscionable way of working of what were supposed be honourable ministers (read: Conroy and others), the ‘whatever it takes’ philosophy (yes, Graham Richardson said it, started it and complain though he might now, he set in train to what we have today). Being from NSW I have seen, of course, what ‘rotten’ means in practice and how crooks can take over a party.
As for the Libs, my statements on the ‘no disadvantage test’ is an example of their philosophical approach, you tend to ‘know’ which way they will jump on certain issues until proven otherwise in an particular case. Add to that their attitude to private schools (can anyone seriously justify millions of taxpayer dollars for top private schools when the old boys and girls actually build scoreboards, buy rowing skulls or whatever (“Cranbrook, which listed assets of $102 million, made a profit of $7.3 million last year….” http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/assets-of-private-schools-to-stay-secret-20110728-1i2eb.html#ixzz1x5aQTLHN. I could go on (‘small business as honest as the day is long’ etc). Nationals with the hand out (and “we never earned any money for the past five years” when they mean taxable income after deducting every morsel of food they eat , cars they drive, holidays they take-to Europe ‘to look at cattle in England’- or have a plane to ‘muster my sheep’(as if!) or attend the pastoralists meeting etc. I am getting petty now I suppose, but to see millionaires from the land crying poor all the time gets to you after a few years. (Seeing one hoard 50 bales of wool because of the tax that year brings you back to earth of course).
Apologies in advance for those silly enough to read so far into this answer.
The ‘Crisis”? It was nothing, nothing.
A screen name should stand for something, mean something even if only a principle and whether it is learned a little late, no matter. When prized intellects such as Bukharin can’t handle it, I rather respect those who don’t let “The Party” come above everything else. The piece you mention is a bit before “I” came to terms with what Bukharin and many more famous others could not handle. The high and mighty, in the end, are only men and women after all.
I forgot to answer, never “apolitical’. Nothing is ‘apolitical’!
Ah, Eleanor.
“I am a member of the Left – philosophically, morally, socially, politically.”
And yet I like you so.
“I argue and struggle with that belief daily.”
That’s what makes you so interesting.
“And the Conservatives?
I am unable to reconcile their central tenets to my world-view.”
Those central tenets being? And your worldview?
I sympathise with M Ryutin’s piece.
Craig Thomson was only accused by Kathy Jackson of not reporting the money spent on the work choices campaign and his election but the AEC have stated clearly that the FWA report was wrong.
If he did not use the money illegally then the FWA report was a hoax.
The FWA report also claimed he used $100,000 to set up an office in Sydney without anyone noticing, but it was all approved and above board.
They also claimed based on that bogus credit slip that he moved to the central coast 4.5 years before he did so they could cover their own story.
The $500,000 was made up by Tony Wright in the AGE and the sheep followed him off the cliff.
‘all approved and above board’
link to evidence is?
I echo that – Mazza where is your evidence (save a very, very creative mind)?
Its all Abbott’s fault
Tiny Dancer, you’re so naughty. 50 billion years for you!